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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote khardy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 July 2006 at 9:07am
Don't know, it came with the boat when in bought it.  Previous owner almost never used it and i put it away.  I've been using an older, dacron, lapper till we learn the boat a little better and since we do beer can races.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 July 2006 at 5:49am
We are also having this discussion here in Cape Town. We avg high wind and normale change to the lapper in 12 knots. We also have the bulb keel but we still seem on pace if not faster than the compition in the light air.

How much was your 3DL lapper?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote khardy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2006 at 7:17pm

We had a fun race last week that didn't count toward series scores.  So we tried it with our lightly used 3-DL lapper in 8-10kts of wind.  We had an excellent start were third around the weather mark.  But there were two long reaches and we ended up finishing 9th.  If we add the 12-seconds per mile we would have finished fourth. 

Based on this i'm inclined to stay with the 155.  With a good start we've never had any probalem staying in the top three if not winning outright.  What really hurt, and i did not count on, is sailing in the back of the fleet often means sailing in dirty air even if the boat who just taked on you owes you time. 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2006 at 11:41am
If you do go for the change, please let us know how it goes.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 June 2006 at 5:19pm
I would go for it with a 12/sec per mile phrf gain. the lappers can be built with a large roach and light battens that will most likely do just as well as the 155. You still get to keep your ODC spinnaker pole and spinnaker. You might be a tad bit slower upwind but no penalty for downwind.

I'd go for it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote khardy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 June 2006 at 10:36am

We are the only Laser on the gulf cost of Florida.  Winds average around 8-kts. We�ve been sailing with a north 3DL 155% and rate 132 PHRF.  Our fleet includes j27s, j30s, j29MHOBs, several S-2 9.1�s and a few other boats.  The J-30 and S-2s all rate 132 as well.  Races are typically WL but sometimes have reaches.

 

If we change our rating certificate to only use the lapper, we can gain up to 12-sec per mile. I worry the lapper would be too small for the lighter winds but the local sail maker (North) thinks the boat would perform reasonably well with a lapper specifically designed for light air.  Under this scenario we would carry two lappers � one for light and one for heavy. 

 

Pros:  easier to sail, cheaper sails, rating advantage when the wind builds.

Cons: slower in light wind.

 

So, will the speed hit be offset by the rating gain?  Any advice?

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